This Dog Must Bite

“Speak softly and carry a big stick.”

President of the United States Theodore Roosev...

This guy got stuff done.

President Teddy Roosevelt popularized it and it is usually attributed to him (but the term actually originated from an African proverb).

If you’re paying attention in history class (pay attention! those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it), you know that the premise of the idea is to negotiate peacefully while demonstrating the ability to be able to strike with military force. It’s realpolitik, which is essentially about getting realistic and materialistic. If you pose no threat to power, who is going to pay attention to your cause? Get real. If you don’t have the ability to damage, embarrass, or shame those in power, who is going to pay attention to your cause? Get real.

So walk softly, and carry a big stick.

Our walk? We make clear, concise policy demands. Access to education. A path to citizenship. Open market competition for scholarships and financial aid.  We bring our research and our talking points, and we negotiate.

Our stick is another story.  Are we willing to hold our politicians accountable? Do we have the capacity to strike? How hard? What does it look like? Pro-migrant voters stay home on election days? Walk-outs? Marches? Strikes? Are we willing to “break rank” if they break their promises?

There’s another term that I’ve heard some people use- “This dog bites,” as in, mess with us and you’ll get bitten. If your dog doesn’t bite, people will walk all over your yard.

This country’s big political players know this.  Last year, Congressman Luis Gutierrez threatened to leave the Democratic party if the DREAM Act or any equivalent pro-migrant progress didn’t happen.

“We need to decouple the movement for comprehensive immigration reform and justice for immigrants from the legislative process and from the Democratic Party process,” Gutiérrez says. “They are too linked.” Daily Beast

But this dog doesn’t bite. He hasn’t led any kind of Latino Revolt. The Congressional Hispanic Caucus, major labor groups, Beltway Latino/pro-migrant organizations, our champion Senator Durbin, and the Democratic party have all stayed duly loyal to each others political interests.  They won’t be breaking rank anytime soon. 2012 is just around the corner, and there’s politicians to re-elect, email lists to activate, and most importantly, big money for voter registration projects.  Immigration, once again, is sacrificed at the altar of winning an election, and slips to the bottom of the pile of national priorities. There’s no stick. There’s no bite.

American politics is, for better or worse, an adversarial process. Organizers in the field sometimes choose to say “decision-makers” instead of “targets” when they refer to those in power, and valid as that may be, we are all ultimately asking for change from somebody who doesn’t want to give it to us. They are our adversaries and our targets.

We don’t need those in power to love us. We just need them to respect us. We need our dog to bite.

Immigrant students are getting shut out of colleges. Secure Communities is lauded as a successful program by Janet Napolitano.  Deportations continue at record levels, beyond those of former President Bush.

A Kansas legislator suggests shooting immigrants as if they were feral pigs. Far right neo-Nazi groups harassed immigrant youth in Chicago holding Coming out of the Shadows events. Threats on our comment boards and hate-filled emails abound here at DREAMActivist.Org.

It’s time to take things into our own hands. This dog must bite.

Join us in Georgia. The DREAM is coming.

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68 thoughts on “This Dog Must Bite

  1. Seriously? “Demands”? WTF? A person who is unlawfully present in my country, and yes, it is mine, since I was born here, and served in its military for 24 years, has no “right” to “demand” a damn thing, other than being treated humanely while being detained and processed for deportation. PERIOD. “Access to education”? What? K-12 for free is not good enough for you? “A path to citizenship”? Sure, sweetheart, when every other nation on this planet does the same, then maybe, but until then, don’t hold your breath. The sheer arrogance of your movement astounds me. Your arguments are specious at best, disengenuous at worst.

    We, the United States of America, owe you and yours NOTHING. We do not accept economic refugees – no nation does, nor should we ever do so. In immigration, it is what can you do for me? Not what can I do for you? And just being some Rock with lips who schlepped through community college does not earn you a golden ticket. You want citizenship? Serve a mandatory, minimum 8 year stint in the military on Active Duty first and foremost, then we will talk.

    • Just pointing out here that only moms and grandmas get to call people “sweetheart.” Surprise, surprise, the anti-DREAM campaign is racist AND sexist. #intersectionality

      Let’s make those demands, Flavia. I got your back.

      • There is no anti-DREAM campaign. There are just US citizens – we call them “Americans” – who want their country’s laws, borders, and sovereignty respected and enforced.

        You don’t. We get it. You are foreigners campaigning for open borders, and Americans that through malice or misunderstanding support you. And we oppose you, and we won a major victory early this year – great stuff!

      • Just to clarify, I’m a U.S. citizen–my ancestors came here between 1670 and 1898–so if I’m a foreigner, you are too. And I’m not malicious or confused, either. I support human rights and I see every human being as my equal, even small-minded people like you.

        WE, the people…have to learn to live with each other; we’re all in this together.

      • Yes, Mizzz, you are either wicked or misguided to undermine the right of Americans to determine who her citizens are. Look around you and watch this country being trashed by low-normal peasants who make insufferable demands on their hosts. I don’t know what makes you betray your own country but it isn’t pretty.

      • All human beings are not my equal – not by a long shot. There are only 10,200 Division I Football Scholarship Athletes in the entire United States of America – out of over 300,000,000 people, and I was one of them. Combat reinforced my beliefs – all humans are not equal, nor or all cultures. Reminds me of a movie, in which Jack Nicholson played an Astronaut, and Shirley MacLaine was remarking on the amount of his Astronaut paraphanelia. Jack responded, “There are only 100 Astronauts in the entire world, and I am one of them. Damn right I am fucking proud of it!”

      • Well, well, well, “Missy”. Sexist? Seriously? Racist? Uh huh. hmmmm, That the best you got? Sexist no, condenscending and belittling, abso-fracking- lutely. Racist? Not me – we all wear green, we all bleed red, as we say in the Army. We all wear blue, we all bleed read, as we say in the LEO community.

        I will say it nice and simple for you, so you will get it, as you say that you are educated and reasonable, unlke those of us who actually believe in the rule of law and that this nation is, in fact one of laws, not men.

        Flavia and her so-called “DREAMers” compadres are not even in the same league as me and the vast majority of those who agree with me – they are mere college students, most attending sub-par community colleges or universities. I attended and graduated summa cum laude from The Univeristy of Virgninia on both Athletic (Football) and National Merit Scholarships – yes, at UVA, we are Scholar-Athletes. I was a 4 star recruit out of high school. I was drafted in the 4th round of the NFL and played for 3 seasons, got injured, took my Lloyd’s of London insurance money and enlisted in the Army to serve MY country. Went to OCS and obtained my commission. Left Active Duty after seeing combat in both Desert Storm and Somalila, to back to school and obtain my JD/MBA from UVA, while still serving in the Reserves. Graduated, passed the Bar, and then joined Customs as an 1811, got sucked up by ICE after 9-11, and here I stand, after 3 more tours (mobilizations).

        I have made more money then the vast majority of her and her ilk ever will, I am bigger (6’4″ 245) than her and her ilk, have far more education and bloodline – I have Plantegenet ancestry, my spouse is a Tudor – figure it out, than her and her ilk. I am even a MENSAN (Google it). I had no problem with the “DREAMers” at first, until they got chippy, with their arrogance and attitude – they now piss me off with their ridiculous platitudes and postering. I am not racist, I have played football with minorities my whole life, they were my brothers. I have served in combat with minorities, they too were my brothers. I now serve warrants and track down illegal alien absconders with minorities – THEY ARE MY BROTHERS. I am not racist, but an equal opportunity illegal alien arrrester/detainer – I don’t care where they are from, nor what the color of their skins are, nor what their religious prefrences happen to be, if they are here unlawfully, they have got to go. Period. End of discussion.

        Bottom line, I don’t care for illegal aliens – and that is what they are – under Title 8, USC, one is either a Citizen, National or Alien of the United States of America – who are “unapologetic” for their transgressions. Just because their parents “wanted a better life or more opportunities” does not make it ok to just ignore/break the law as they see fit. So immigration law is skewed against poor, illiterate, uneducated and unskilled people? Big effing deal. Immigration law has always been, and always will be, what does the prospecitve immigrant bring to the table that is above and beyond what I already have? What can he/she do for me, not what can I do for him. EVERY NATION is like that, Get over it.

        Living whereever you want to live is not a human right. Being middle class is not a human right. There are rules, policies and procedures that need to be adhered to in order for society to function, otherwise we have anarchy – we tried that once, did not work out that well – it was called the “Dark Ages”.

        And no, I don’t see every human being as my equal, far from it. You have obviously never been in combat and seen up close and personal; man’s capacity for inhumanity to man. The Skinnies and Hadjs are no where near my equal, nor that of my Soldiers, either.

        Flavia and her ilk are not doing themselves any favors by blathering about holding policticians accountable, as if they outnumber other voters who don’t want the DREAM Act to pass, saying that citizens are adversaries and targets, and calling citizens “Nativist Punks” – just what is that anyway, someone who actually believes in the rule of law, and that borders, language and culture matter? Whining about deporations being at an all-time high? Sheesh, we have not even hit 400,000 a year yet. What does she expect us to do when we catch an illegal alien? Let him/her go?

        I have previously stated, I am not fully opposed to the DREAM Act, but to the latest version. The age limits must be reduce to arrival at 12 or younger and stop at 25. They must have graduated from an accredited High School with a minimum 3.0 GPA, and must serve an 8 year enlistment on Active Duty in one of Armed Forces (Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines or Coast Guard) and receive an Honorable Discharge. The Romans granted citizenship to those who served 10 years in the Legions, so I have no problem offering the same incentive to illegal aliens here. No ability to sponsor their parents – ever – upon becoming citizens (if the sins of the fathers do not apply to the sons, then the deeds of the sons do not apply to the fathers). Upon completion ot their minimum military service, they can either continue on serving for their 20, or enter either a 4 year university or trade school that teaches them a vocation – such as nursing, dental hygiene, auto mechanics, plumbling, etc., and they must graduate within 5 years with a minimum 3.0 GPA. I could support a DREAM ACT like that. We would see who really wants it and who is just a Schleprock Oxygen Thief.

        Change is coming, true enough, it is the start of the POTUS election cycle – just watch. We shall soon see how unapologetic and unafraid all those loud mouth, arrogant and demanding “undocumented” students really are, when we are no longer constrained from doing our jobs.

      • Well said. Thank you for your service.

        And I particularly enjoyed you calling out this punk Flavia as she dared to call her hosts by the same epitath. The unmitigated arrogance and gall this young woman has! At least we know she and others like her are failing.

        If you Google Flavia you’ll learn that she is an “activist” in training now. Another parasite…

        Stay safe, ICE.

      • Thank you for your support. I monitor sites like these on my own volition, just to see what is going on with the illegal alien fringe (Keep your friends close, keep your enemies closer) and to see if I can determine their modus operendi. I never really paid much attention to them until they started to take a different tack, and became much more vitriolic in their proclamations and actions. Bad move on their part – now, and a large number like me, are fracking pissed off at the arrogant little snits, demanding and whining about their human rights et al. My response is this: if you don’t like your present situation here in MY country, LEAVE. Take your free K-12 education, your community college, your backwater bottom tier (CSDH, CSULB, CSR, CSN) bachelor degrees with you and don’t let the door hit your asses on the way out, ingrates. I owe you nothing. You should be counting your blessings that you actually received a K-12 education, gratis, and then are enrolled in, or finished with college. Take your education back to your home of origin and apply it there. That Third of Fourth World nation needs its educated citizens – especially those fluent in English (the international language of business) far more than we, in the United States of America, do. Especially those worthless degrees, like Ethnic Studies, Women’s Studies, Politcal Science, Photography, Art, et al.

        Hector Tobar (LA Times Tool extraordinaire), sobbed about some Schlep who graduated from UCLA Law School and was unable to practice law do his immigration status (read: being an illegal alien). The kid speaks English and graduated from UCLA Law – why the hell is he not back in Mexico, working for Sr. Carlos Slim – the richest man in the world – making a fortune???? That’s what I would do, instead of illegally working as a dishwasher here. Not that difficult of a decision if you ask me.

        Fact is, we are a nation of laws, not men. President Richard M. Nixon found that out the hard way, as did President William J. Clinton. The law is the law. Period. It has to be followed, otherwise we will have anarchy. Immigration law is not “unjust” – it is the sole responsibility of Congress – as designated in the Constitution. Since the concept of “Citizenship” was created in Greco-Roman society, it has always been based on what can a newbie bring to the table, that we don’t already have? It has never been about what kind of opportunities can we, the new nation, provide for the new immigrant, nor should it ever be. And just because it sucks in their home nation, (although I have absolutely ZERO empathy for South Koreans, Taiwanese and Hong Kongans) does not mean they get to bypass our LAWS and come here willy-nilly, as they see fit. If life sucks, how about making it better at your home of origin instead of fleeing to do menial, unskilled, minimum wage jobs here in my country? Or if you must immigrate here, do it legally. Is that really too fracking much to ask? Seriously? I mean, I would really love to retire to Switzerland, Provence, Lombard or Tuscany, but I just can’t up and move there on my own volition without going through the proper channels and procedures. I get that, and even though I am in MENSA, and scored really high on my PSAT and SAT and LSAT and GMAT, it really is not that difficult of a concept to grasp. Follow the fracking law, even if it is an “inconvenience” to you. It is always better to do the hard right over the easy wrong – it builds character – something that is sorely lacking in these so-called “DREAMers”. You wan citizenship, armor up, lock and load, go down range and fight for your country first, then we will talk. Until then, silencio pelo pelotas!

        Semper Paratus!

      • What about the people who never had the chance to do it right in the first place? I would’ve loved to have had the opportunity to do things right from the start. Unfortunately my parents made the decision to take me to the US illegally and now that I am trying to do things right, and get legal status in the country I was given a 10 year bar. If it were not for that I would be legal by now.

      • MM, you are doing the right thing. I am sorry that you have to wait so long, really I am. More of the kids here should be like you. No one can hold anything against you for doing the right thing.

      • Rather than saying, “I’m sorry you have to be separated from your family and friends and everyone you’ve ever known for 10 years,” how about some real compassion, in the form of changing the law? I find it heartening that you are sympathetic, Storm, but it’s hard for me to understand why you think “doing the right thing” should have to be so incredibly punitive. Can you imagine if you were told, actually, through no fault of your own, you have to move to Sweden and you can’t come back to the US for TEN YEARS? Not if your mom or sister gets terminal cancer, not if your US citizen son or daughter struggles in school because you aren’t there to help, not if your US citizen spouse can’t make rent without your income, not if none of these people can come and visit you, not if you don’t know a single soul there and don’t speak Swedish and have nowhere to go when you get off the plane. Do you really think some stupid immigration law is more important than your family responsibilities? Why is that the “right” thing to do? Why is it “right” for us to impose that? And none of these circumstances, by the way, qualify for the “hardship” exception to deportation. Think about what you are asking this person to do and whether that really feels “right” to you. If you really feel sorry, do something about it.

      • It just isn’t possible for the USA to take in so many. If I could save the world of its sorrows I would but I can’t. Same with America. We can’t do the impossible. All my ancestors, except the native american ones, came here through the proper channels. All Countries have laws for a reason. America is no different. I am sorry the dreamers have to worry about deporatation, it is heart breaking, but I am not the one who put them in that position. I couldn’t in my wildest dream imagine putting my child in such a position by taking such a risk.

      • @MM: At least you are doing the right thing – obeying the law of the land. Nobody said it was easy, nor were you ever promised a rose garden. So you have to stay out of Les Estates Unis for a decade. Big deal. Is that really too much of a price to pay if you had already enjoyed a free education, K-12, and possibly a college degree from the USA? Consider it a payment for those services already provided, that you were not entitled too in the first place – and don’t start quoting me Plyler v. Doe, that was decided in 1982 when the illegal alien problem was 1/4 the size it is now – perhaps it is time to revisit it with this SCOTUS under the premise that states do have a compelling interest in denying free K-12 education to illegal aliens, due to their sheer numbers overwhelming local school districts and bankrupting them.

        MM, with your grasp of the English language, and your education, you should have no problem landing a job in your home country, for the next 10 years. Use that time wisely to get experience and better your home country. And do not blame the USA for your 10 year ban, put the blame where it belongs – on your parents, whose poor decisions and lack of thoughtfulness put you in your current predicament. What were they thinking? That we would be stupid enough to grant another amnesty to millions of illegal aliens? Been there, done that, it ain’t happening again.

        Good luck in your endeavours in your home country, and come back in 10 years – the LEGAL way this time.

        Semper Paratus!

      • Thank you. No I was never promised a rose garden, nor was my life ever a rose garden. I did have a “free” K-12 education, but my parents were paying taxes all those years so its been paid for and they also paid for my college education out-of-pocket.

        I wish I could better my country so everyone could just come back, but unfortunately in the time that I have been here I have noticed that this country is completely run by corruption and greed. Even the most educated people end up struggling sometimes. My uncle has a Master’s degree and he needs 3 jobs to survive! One of the jobs is constantly holding the employees paychecks because the city “does not have” enough money to pay them, but they have enough for all the government officials are living in luxury. Having an American education and knowing English does not mean I’m set to succeed in Mexico because there are a lot of barriers.

        If this 10 year ban were only affecting me, I would not worry about it. I would just find a way to survive here and if in 10 years I felt the need to move back to the US I would consider that possibility. Since it is not only affecting me, it makes this situation even harder for me. My fiance is American and he might have to leave his family and his career to live with me for the next 9 years. For the moment he has just been travelling back and forth, but get time off from work is difficult and the trip is expensive.

        I have never blamed the US for this situation. I know that if my parents had made different decisions this would not be happening. Actually I blame one parent for being a coward and using fear and control to convince my mother of crossing illegally when we both had a visa! What I do think the US has control over is allowing the consulate the power to interpret laws unfairly and punish people for things they had no control over. You wouldn’t give a person jail time for being in the car with his parents when they committed a crime.

        I honestly don’t know what my father was thinking when he made that decision other than it was the perfect way to have total control over my mother. She was in a country where she had no friends or family, and she did not speak the language. I really wish we had known about VAWA back then, but we didn’t know about it and my mother never reported the abuse. I can assure you that my mother never thought about an amnesty or even staying in the US indefinitely. We escaped at the first possible chance we had, and eventually we returned to Mexico. By then I had already gotten used to living in the US and I missed my friends. I asked her constantly about returning, but I didn’t know anything about being “illegal”. My current stepfather (a LPR) told her that if we returned they would get married and we would have legal status in the country after a few years. That is why we returned, not because we were counting on any type of amnesty.

        I do plan on returning legally one day. The first thing out of my mouth whenever any of my friends ask me about this situation is that I refuse to cross illegally ever again! I did twice through no choice of my own and now that I have a choice I am making the right one. I am not going to risk my life or my chances of finally getting my green card in 10 years. I waited 7 years already and was forced to wait an additional 10 because I was not old enough to say no to my parents.

        Note: The parents who paid for my education include my step-father, a true father who cared for and was there for me. The parents who I wish I could have said no to, include the biological father who I wish I had no blood relation to because if he were not related to me it would make it easier to grasp the idea of how he could bare the thought of hurting me.

      • MM, I am glad and heartened by your realization and decision to place the blame where it actually belongs – on your father – and not Title 8 USC. Yes, your story is a sad one, but have you thought about having your citizen fiance contact his Senators or Congressman and have them introduce a Private Relief Bill on your behalf? Your story is indeed compelling and worthy of consideration of one.

      • “ICEGS1811” I sense a lot of hostility in the way that you are talking about immigrants on theses blogs. Now I’m not a psychotherapist but I came to the conclusion why you desperately would come all the way into an activist forum to try to influence the people here. In my conclusion I have the idea that the reason why you seem so hostile is because if the DREAM act passes (which it will) then the ICE department will lose a lot of jobs. This movement will have a large effect on the ICE department I’m sure and correct me if I’m wrong but this idea has surely crossed you mind. Your department “ICE” will no longer need an immense amount of labor force and in fact it will not continue to hire new employees, most likely since you talk about retiring then “ICE” will start shedding jobs which will target older employees like. The U.S. economy shedding jobs has made a lot of people hostile but you don’t need to bring your hostility here into this forum “ICEGS1811”.

      • Or perhaps, as most Americans, he doesn’t pick and choose which laws to enforce. When we break a law, we go to jail, there is no compremise. There is no worry about the family left behind to fend for themselves. A country with double standards,that ignores its own laws, is not safe, nor fair to the people that live here. Millions of people have already lost their jobs or decent wages to the overwhelming numbers of invading illegals. What kind of Country caters to foreigners and leaves its citizens to fall between the cracks? What kind of Country changes its language just to suit one group of people?

        Ice has every right to voice his opinions in any which way he chooses. If he or any one else is hostile, ask yourself why that may be. Don’t assume to have all the answers. Or have illegals taken away our freedom of speach as well?

        As for immigrants, there is a difference between legal and illegal immigrants.

      • So what you are saying is that an infant that came here 20 years ago, broke the law and now needs to be deported. The people that the DREAM act is targeting are the people who have already been here in the U.S. most of their lives, we are talking about students, mostly the kids and the youth here. So what you are saying is that the U.S. needs to criminalize these kids and put them in prisons then deport them. Where is your heart? may the lord be with you and I will pray for you.

      • I do have sympathy for these kids but their parents put them in the position that they are in. No one else is to blame. The kids belong with their parents until they are of age. Their parents are taking jobs and lowering wages for citizens all across the USA, or are on welfare. I know illegals who are above the poverty limit and collecting welfare. This is happening everywhere. Our own citizens are falling through the cracks and no one cares! Who is looking out for the child of the poor citizen?????? His parents are law abiding citizens who have worked hard their entire lives and now have lost everything. Illegals never ever mention sympathy for these citizens. They are completely ignored.

        The entire world wants peace and equality but sadly, because of corrupt governments, power and greed, that will never happen. What we have happening here in America shouldn’t be happening. We have limits on how many come here. With the huge population of illegals, citizens are being displaced. I am sick of our citizens taking a back seat, suffering and struggling just because our laws were never enforced.

      • You are going out of the main argument here, we are talking about the youth who are in school, the new immigrant youth who are coming out of high school are the main people who are finally standing up. If you look at the statistics then you will find out that the U.S. is going through a dramatic change, projections show that Hispanics as a whole will amount to more than half of the U.S. population in just a few years. Deportations are not going to stop this, deportations will just cost the U.S. an immense amount of money when the U.S. should be worrying on being more productive instead. The U.S. was built upon immigrants. Immigrants aren’t taking jobs but they are creating them. Did you know that the city of San Francisco was built mainly be the Chinese. There are many jobs that citizens will not apply for that are taken by the illegal immigrants. You can ask that to anyone and they will tell you the truth. Your argument that illegals take welfare totally does not follow your logic because when you put into effect the mass amount of money that illegals could not claim to the U.S. government in forms of tax returns, well your argument just falls to crumbs. I bet you did not know that the U.S. is holding a large amount of money that was never given back to these immigrants.

      • Creating jobs for who? Their illegal friends? The dream Act would only encourage more illegal immigration. It is just another form of amnesty. Some of these kids would be here if their parents would have come here legally. Many would not. We have numbers to go by. We have already given amnesty to millions in the past and we see how that has worked. It only encouraged more illegals to come. We have people waiting in line to become legal. I’m sure they have kids that want to go to college and you want to put others ahead of them.

      • Forgot to add that we would be legalizing millions of kids who believe in illegal immigration and have no respect for laws. This is dangerous.

      • This is a debate that will not be solved here in this forum, even in Universities. What I do think about is to think about all the galaxies in our universe and all of the stars in it, when you think about it…me and you and the issue that we are talking about it is nothing, to think about it well..it’s less than nothing, not even a speck of dust. I wish you the best in your journey of life and these turmoils that are plaguing our planet our earth. I will be the bigger person and end this argument by saying that may you in time have the chance to clean your soul of all the hatred towards other people of the human kind. May god be with you and hope that he will give you the honor of forgiving all of your sins. Goodbye.

      • I commend you for the job you are doing, for being on the right side, for your understanding and compassion for the American citizen. Well said my friend!!!!!!!

      • So I was going to write something snippy about how I’m glad I kept you off the streets long enough to write that…but this is actually way more serious than I thought. I actually feel bad…all those achievements, and you let a bunch of young punks get you this riled up? Why don’t you take your money and your girth and try to do something nice for someone. You could probably really help out in tsunami reconstruction with that frame and all that money (and time, apparently).

        Also, I am truly sorry that you had to witness atrocities in combat. Those people were your equal, though.

        OK, I was being snide in the first paragraph, but I am actually serious about doing some community service beyond law enforcement. Pro bono hours, maybe? The ABA recommends at least 200 pro bono hours per year, maybe you could help out some indigent American citizens, since you seem to have a passion for that. Or build some houses for Habitat for Humanity. Or do a weekend a month at a soup kitchen.

        And don’t feel like you need to write back all ragey about how you DO build hundreds of houses or whatever. I’m suggesting you do something like that for yourself, for your own soul. Just think about it.

      • Missy, I have lots of free time on my hands this week – it is called “Spring Break” – the dismounts are out of school and Household 6 does not want them unsupervised, and since I have a with more leave/benefits than she does, I am the one who is tasked with babysitting one high schooler, and two junior high schoolers. My daughter, I trust not to burn the house down or do something incredibly stupid; my two sons, however; that is a different story in and of itself. They would most likely go feral within 8 hours without direct supervision…..

        I do not practice law, I enforce it – there are a lot of JDs like me who’d rather carry the gold shiny shield, and the Sig, Glock or H&K, than spend time in a court room or law library. As for Habitat for Humanity, I have participated in that, my kids go on Sierra Service Project every summer, between summer Cheer and Football and the start of Hell Week (The beginning of the season, the reason for being, otherwise known as FOOTBALL and Cheer). Community Service – I coach youth Football (4 straight conference championships) and donate $$$ to my church. That box is checked, thank you.

        As for the Skinnies and Hadjs being my equals? Hardly. That is why I am here, and those who shot at me, and shot me, or not. Real human beings have honor – they do not send out 9-12 kids with AKs to fight against professional Soldiers, especially Rangers. They do not attempt to use women and children as human shields, hide under Burkas & Hijabs, or use Mosques and Red Crescent vehicles to ambush you, nor do they target Red Cross Medical vehicles – all done in Falloujah by cockroaches masqueradiing as humans. I lost my first Soldiers under my command, when their clearly designated Medical HMMWV was struck by RPG fire from a Mosque, as they were being medevaced from the fight. Not only were they killed, but so were the 3 medics assisting them. I was the one who had to write to their parents and spouses. Now you tell me, are they still your equal?

      • They may not be as honorable as you (though I won’t pass judgment on that, I don’t know). But yes, they are still your equal. That is a hard thing to say–indeed, it’s hard for me to say that you, with your condescension and racist and sexist language and your bullying ways are my equal–but it is a mark of civilization to recognize that even the most vile human beings are still human.

        The service projects were just an idea for how to heal your soul from all of this hatred you have. I really hope your kids don’t hear you referring to other humans as cockroaches. Thinking that way and having that kind of rage in you is not good for you or for anyone around you. In my family, our vets deal with this pain by drinking, but needless to say, that is not the most constructive solution, which is why I suggested service. I am glad that you are helping out in your community, but it doesn’t seem to be helping YOU that much. But whether through service or through therapy or through meditation or whatever, getting rid of all that anger would really be a good goal.

        Then again…the teenagers in and of themselves might be making you crazy….lol…no wonder you like to get your catharsis anonymously taking it out on youth activists! If I were you I’d round up the little devils and go TP Household 6.

        BTW, “Missy” is not my name, so don’t call me that. You can call me “Miss,” if you want.

      • Miss, Household 6 is my redheaded wife. In the Army, “6” is the CO of the unit, “5” is the XO, “7” is the 1SG, the PLs are “1” and the PSGs are “4”, distinguished by their colors/platoons.Red – 1st, White – 2nd, Blue – 3rd, Green – 4th, Black – HQ. Por ejemplo, when talking amongst ourselves on our unit freq, if I wanted to talk to the PL of 4th Platoon, I would say, “Green 1, Black 6, over” and he/she would respond, “Black 6, Green 1, go ahead, over”, or if he were engaged and had a vehicle crewmember on radio watch, it would be, “Black 6, Green 1 Delta (Driver)/Golf (Gunner)/Lima (Loader), Green 1 Actual is monitoring, go ahead, over.” When talking outside of our unit, to other units, I became my unit’s name, (my last one was the Reapers), I would say, “Phantom 6, Reaper 6, over.” So, when I say “Household 6”, I am speaking of my better half, who runs the house and is the glue that keeps everything together, from PTA to Pop Warner Football Fund Raising.

        But as for being sexist, I am far from it, I have female Soldiers in my unit, and they armor up, lock and load, and go down range with the guys. In fact, they have bigger potty-mouths than the guys do. My driver is a female Soldier – she provides a great platform, works the radios like a champ, shoots Expert all the time, and tells more off-color jokes than I do. She never complains and is a hard charging MP who wants to join ICE when she graduates from college. Guess what? She is Pacifice Islander (Hawaiian and Japanese), and does not particularly care for illegal aliens either – her dad is Hawaiian and her mother Japanese, met while he was stationed in Japan, got engaged, took her 3 years to come stateside, but she did it LEGALLY. She has no sympathy for law breakers, regardless of their situations. I am also, I say again, racist – Arabs are caucasions, just like me. I have served with and alongside of minorities my whole life – we all wear green, we all bleed red. And as for bullying, why are football players always accused of being bullys? I never put an underclassman in a locker or took their lunch money throughout elementary school to college, even though I often wanted to – especially to the really mouthy nerdy ones – who I shared AP classes with. If t hey had snide comments about football players or jocks, in general, all I did was tell them to say to my face, after school and off of school grounds. That is not being a bully, that is teaching them a life lesson – don’t write checks with your mouth that your ass can’t cash.

        And to heal my soul? Thanks for your concern, but I have the good Monsignuer for that, and weightlifting, running, football, teaching my two sons groundfighting and arrest techniques. Nothing refreshes the soul more than throttling one’s progeny and making them tap out, as my dad used to say.

        You see, the major issue that I and the vast majority of this nation’s citizens have with these so-called “DREAMers” and “Activists” (Just what the hell is an ‘Activist” anyhoo? Does one actually list that on a resume or their 1040??), is that they are acting like spoiled, whiny brats – “Gimme, gimme, gimme!” Just because they are here and managed to schlep through high school (some not even could do that, as the DREAM Act also covered high school drop outs/GEDs, now there’s winning crowd for you), they want a path to citizenship just for attending a community college – nothing about graduating or maintaining a minimum GPA – just attending a community college, and they had 10 fracking years to do so. If congress came out and said, “Any illegal alien between the ages of 18-29, who wants Temporary Protected Status and a path to citizenship, must enlist in one of the Armed Forces of the United States of America (Army, Navy, Air Force, Marine Corps, or Coast Guard) for an 8 year term of service on Active Duty, first and foemost, how much do you want to bet that less than 20,000 (out of the 2.1 million that the old DREAM Act would have covered) would step up to the plate? If these illegal aliens want to change their immigration status that badly, then they should step up and sign on the dotted line and SERVE their new country FIRST, before their new country serves them – by provding them with a free college educaion via the post 9-11 GI Bill.

      • LOL @ the image of you and the kids TP-ing your wife! HAHAHA…sorry, I thought household 6 was the snobby neighbors.

        Re: sexism, awesome that you respect women who act just like stereotypical men…FYI, that is still sexism. It took me a while to really understand that because I have more testosterone than most men, so I was guilty of the same thing you’re doing. But if you are going to fully respect women as equals, you have to have the same amount of respect for women who act in more traditionally feminine ways, too. You can’t call someone “sweetie” just because she’s a waitress or a secretary or she’s wearing a short dress or younger than you (or because she happens to have an opinion you think is dumb). Any time you equate femininity with weakness or feeblemindedness, that is sexism. I am not saying that there aren’t women out there who are dumb or weak–there are plenty, just like there are men who are dumb or weak–but you call them out for the dumb things they say or do, not for their gender. I mean, condescension is generally a bad strategy, because it makes you look mean and you lose credibility, but condescension laced with sexism is just that much worse. And this anti-sexism principle also applies to men who don’t act macho–picking on them for that is also sexist. Basically, any time you set up a system that only values traditionally masculine ways of acting, that is sexist.

        Which brings me to the “whiny brats”. Now, I respect the armed forces, but they are NOT the only way to serve your country. Being a nurse or doctor or public school teacher or social worker is also an important service. Even just being a decent, hard-working person who cares for your family and pays taxes, that is service, too–you are taking care of yourself and others so that the State doesn’t have to. This “8 years of active duty or it didn’t happen” is bullshit. That’s like me saying “8 years of being a yoga instructor or it didn’t happen.” I happen to like yoga and think it’s good for the community. But I’m not going to impose that value on every single person who wants to get citizenship. Nor does the country need every new citizen to be a yoga teacher, just like we don’t need every new citizen to become a soldier. Now, if you want to say “8 years of service to the community, or it didn’t happen” you know, that’s a conversation we can have. But saying that ONLY active military duty is service, or that it’s the highest service, is both shortsighted and disrespectful to those of us who serve in other ways.

      • “Miss”, as a business professional I agree that military is not the only option, since we live in a global market today, undocumented immigrants can serve the U.S. by getting educated and making the U.S. more competitive. The U.S. can be more competitive globally in other ways besides being competitive militarily. The U.S. is already losing jobs to other countries because the U.S. is lacking competitiveness to it’s European and Asian counterparts. “ICEGS181” Comparing the U.S. to the Romans would not be a good idea since the Roman empire only lasted 500 years or so and towards the last 200 years in power that empire was already on it’s way to a collapse. If you infer that the U.S. should follow the path of the Romans well then that would put the U.S. in jeopardy since the U.S. declared its independence about 300 years ago and well, you do the math. “ICEGS181” you seem like a cool and down to earth guy and you are just doing your job but putting all the immigrants on the same bandwagon is a bad idea since alot of DREAMers are very intelligent and have grown up here in the U.S. They are very different from lets say, the immigrants that just got here to the U.S. today.

      • Paul, the western Roman Empire fell in 476 AD and the eastern Roman Empire fell in 1453 AD – not a bad life-span for a nation/empire. What kind of math did you take? We recognize July 4, 1776 as our nation’s birthday, by my count that puts us at roughly 235 years old – not even half way to 500. And do you honestly care if the United States of America is still standing as it is now, 300 years from now? We don’t compete globally because our labor costs a lot more than other nations’ labor, and as long as we allow companies to continue outsourcing, they will do so. I thnk we should hammer companies that outsource, personally.

        There is a saying, “A capitalist will sell you the rope that you are going to hang him with, whereas; a socialist will give it to you.”

      • Well, well, well, “Missy”. Sexist? Seriously? Racist? Uh huh. hmmmm, That the best you got? Sexist no, condenscending and belittling, abso-fracking- lutely. Racist? Not me – we all wear green, we all bleed red, as we say in the Army. We all wear blue, we all bleed read, as we say in the LEO community.

        I will say it nice and simple for you, so you will get it, as you say that you are educated and reasonable, unlke those of us who actually believe in the rule of law and that this nation is, in fact one of laws, not men.

        Flavia and her so-called “DREAMers” compadres are not even in the same league as me and the vast majority of those who agree with me – they are mere college students, most attending sub-par community colleges or universities. I attended and graduated summa cum laude from The Univeristy of Virgninia on both Athletic (Football) and National Merit Scholarships – yes, at UVA, we are Scholar-Athletes. I was a 4 star recruit out of high school. I was drafted in the 4th round of the NFL and played for 3 seasons, got injured, took my Lloyd’s of London insurance money and enlisted in the Army to serve MY country. Went to OCS and obtained my commission. Left Active Duty after seeing combat in both Desert Storm and Somalila, to back to school and obtain my JD/MBA from UVA, while still serving in the Reserves. Graduated, passed the Bar, and then joined Customs as an 1811, got sucked up by ICE after 9-11, and here I stand, after 3 more tours (mobilizations).

        I have made more money then the vast majority of her and her ilk ever will, I am bigger (6’4″ 245) than her and her ilk, have far more education and bloodline – I have Plantegenet ancestry, my spouse is a Tudor – figure it out, than her and her ilk. I am even a MENSAN (Google it). I had no problem with the “DREAMers” at first, until they got chippy, with their arrogance and attitude – they now piss me off with their ridiculous platitudes and postering. I am not racist, I have played football with minorities my whole life, they were my brothers. I have served in combat with minorities, they too were my brothers. I now serve warrants and track down illegal alien absconders with minorities – THEY ARE MY BROTHERS. I am not racist, but an equal opportunity illegal alien arrrester/detainer – I don’t care where they are from, nor what the color of their skins are, nor what their religious prefrences happen to be, if they are here unlawfully, they have got to go. Period. End of discussion.

        Bottom line, I don’t care for illegal aliens – and that is what they are – under Title 8, USC, one is either a Citizen, National or Alien of the United States of America – who are “unapologetic” for their transgressions. Just because their parents “wanted a better life or more opportunities” does not make it ok to just ignore/break the law as they see fit. So immigration law is skewed against poor, illiterate, uneducated and unskilled people? Big effing deal. Immigration law has always been, and always will be, what does the prospecitve immigrant bring to the table that is above and beyond what I already have? What can he/she do for me, not what can I do for him. EVERY NATION is like that, Get over it.

        Living whereever you want to live is not a human right. Being middle class is not a human right. There are rules, policies and procedures that need to be adhered to in order for society to function, otherwise we have anarchy – we tried that once, did not work out that well – it was called the “Dark Ages”.

        And no, I don’t see every human being as my equal, far from it. You have obviously never been in combat and seen up close and personal; man’s capacity for inhumanity to man. The Skinnies and Hadjs are no where near my equal, nor that of my Soldiers, either.

        Flavia and her ilk are not doing themselves any favors by blathering about holding policticians accountable, as if they outnumber other voters who don’t want the DREAM Act to pass, saying that citizens are adversaries and targets, and calling citizens “Nativist Punks” – just what is that anyway, someone who actually believes in the rule of law, and that borders, language and culture matter? Whining about deporations being at an all-time high? Sheesh, we have not even hit 400,000 a year yet. What does she expect us to do when we catch an illegal alien? Let him/her go?

        I have previously stated, I am not fully opposed to the DREAM Act, but to the latest version. The age limits must be reduce to arrival at 12 or younger and stop at 25. They must have graduated from an accredited High School with a minimum 3.0 GPA, and must serve an 8 year enlistment on Active Duty in one of Armed Forces (Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines or Coast Guard) and receive an Honorable Discharge. The Romans granted citizenship to those who served 10 years in the Legions, so I have no problem offering the same incentive to illegal aliens here. No ability to sponsor their parents – ever – upon becoming citizens (if the sins of the fathers do not apply to the sons, then the deeds of the sons do not apply to the fathers). Upon completion ot their minimum military service, they can either continue on serving for their 20, or enter either a 4 year university or trade school that teaches them a vocation – such as nursing, dental hygiene, auto mechanics, plumbling, etc., and they must graduate within 5 years with a minimum 3.0 GPA. I could support a DREAM ACT like that. We would see who really wants it and who is just a Schleprock Oxygen Thief.

        Change is coming, true enough, it is the start of the POTUS election cycle – just watch. We shall soon see how unapologetic and unafraid all those loud mouth, arrogant and demanding “undocumented” students really are, when we are no longer constrained from doing our jobs.

  2. 1st. Beautiful piece.
    2nd. The DREAM Ac will fix the problem of not being able to work after earning a degree.
    3rd. Most unemployed American citizens / Permanent Residents belong to the low skill labor workforce group, a group where DREAMers currently compete for jobs in so passing the DREAM Act will displace competing DREAM Act students from the low skill labor pool to the educated workforce pool where unemployment is not an issue of concern and where companies are actually not hiring anyone who is unemployed which is not necessarily decreasing unemployment because its just shifting employees from one employer to another instead of reaching out to qualified unemployed candidates. As it stands, these new citizen or permanent resident grads stand no chance as companies will not consider them to fill positions either way. Therefore this corporate selectivity of workforce shifting is perhaps a better issue for Americans to address so as to help the current situation instead of trying to keep DREAM Act students inside the low skill labor workforce where they do have a negative impact.
    4th. No, the U.S. does not owe anyone anything, DREAM Act students owe America and they are only trying to pay back, otherwise all the money spent in K-12 education are sunk costs you that everyone in the U.S. help fund without the possibility of ever getting payback. Pass the DREAM Act, let them work, let them contribute more through more taxes, social security etc and everyone wins. This either me or you strategy does not help anyone and actually decreases the possible mutual benefits.

    • Most unskilled American workers were pushed out of employment opportunities by the Dreamers and their parents. Now the Dreamers want to push skilled and white collar American workers out of educational and employment opportunities. And we are to believe that it is good for us?

      • Well said Trish! Of course it is not good for us. They do not care about the people they displace. Join ALIPAC or any other organization that actually cares and looks out for the citizens.

      • As I said above, the skilled job market unemployment problem is primarily the result of corporations preferring currently employed workers instead of the unemployed and/or the recent grads. These practices only shift workers, benefiting one company and damaging another never really creating any jobs or positive outcomes; its a game of musical chairs and the unemployed pool remains, an unemployed pool that will remain whether or not DREAMers enter it. Its a lose lose situation. Have it any day you want it, you’re focusing on the wrong issue here. There are jobs in the skilled sector, employers just opt not to hire those who need the jobs.

  3. Nice post, Flavia, though I want to defend Rep. Gutierrez as the ONLY person who defended DREAM on the House floor without blaming DREAMers’ parents. But otherwise I agree with you. Let’s show the true visionaries that we have their backs, and create the conditions that make their threats credible.

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  5. Deportations continue at record levels for a good reason. ICE has opened up thousands of jobs for citizens by deporting illegals. Secure communities has been created out of neccesity. Who will listen to people who have no respect for our laws? It doesn’t matter what you say or do because you have no rights unless you are legal. It is a waste of time and energy.

    • That is exactly the argument that slave owners used in Dred Scott–slaves are not citizens, so they have no rights. So, just recognize the ghosts you are resurrecting with that argument.

      I suspect you know that you are wrong: the Constitution applies to everyone in the US, not just citizens.

      • How many rights does an American have in another country? Can we come and do as we please without the proper documents? Can we work and live there just because we feel like it? No we cannot.

  6. “WASHINGTON — Despite appeals from immigration reform advocates and some Congressional Democrats, the Obama administration will not block deportations of young people who grew up in the United States, Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano said on Friday.”

  7. Actually, I’m Asian, the son of a formerly undocumented woman, and a natural-born citizen of this country – and I’m still for the DREAM Act and there are thousands of like me who aren’t Latino, who aren’t undocumented, and who aren’t “self absorbed,” but in this for our friends, our classmates, and our neighbors.

    And, to answer your question, I think I’m tired of people talking pitting people “far more deserving” against my DREAMer classmates, who’re plenty deserving on their own. My folks came as students and religious refugees.

    People like you said the exact same things to my family in 1980. I suspect immigrants won’t ever be good enough for you.

    • Immigrants are respectful and abide by the laws of this country Illegal immigrants do not. The only reason I mention latinos is because they outnumber all other illegal immigrants and are heard the loudest and most often.

      • LOL. You don’t like them because they are loud, because they don’t say “yes, massah.” You don’t like them because they are so many, they are going to knock you off your podium of privilege, so that NO ONE will ever have to say “yes massah” to anyone ever again. You don’t like them because confronted with choosing between laws that dehumanize and degrade, and righteous civil disobedience, they would rather be sitting next to Rosa Parks than jumping up every time some angry, scared white lady gets on the bus.

        This is supposed to be a democracy, where we’re all equal. Right now, we have an apartheid state. You can call it whatever you want and invent a million excuses, but at the end of the day, that’s what it is. This is the Civil Rights Movement of the 21st Century, and you’re on the wrong side of history.

      • Do you know of any Countries without laws? Do you Know of any other country that allows unchecked numbers of illegal immigrants into their country? I don’t like them because they place themselves above the law and other people here. Don’t think you can change history by breaking laws and making up your own own rules. Don’t be so ignorant and self absorbed. And when you get frustrated, don’t play the race card, it makes you look desperate.

      • Podium of privelege? You think you just can just waltz in, break the laws and disrespect people and you’ll have the same prvileges as everyone else? Wow!

        Laws that dehumanize and degrade? Illegals have no background checks and bring in criminals and disease. Thousands of lives have been lost due to our laws not being enforced. You are ok with that? That is sick and twisted.

        Young lady, go back to school. You have a lot to learn. Next time think before you say anything because this last rant was ridiculous!

      • “bring in criminals and disease”–so do Americans. It’s a globalized world, get used to it.
        “thousands of lives have been lost”–show me the stats, I’d love to know where you get your crazypants theories.

        “waltz in”–that’s what my ancestors, the Pilgrims, did. Who am I to judge if someone else wants to come here, too? Also, when you call me “young lady” it makes you sound like an out-of-touch old fart. Let the younger generation take the reins, we are obviously better equipped and less afraid of the world as it is.

      • Seems we are not allowed to provide links to videos and boy do I have a good one I’d like you to see. Anyway, I have already done my homework.

        When you get frustrated you resort to name calling. Is that supposed to deter me in some way? Actually I did laugh at the out of touch old fart thingy. LOL

        Oh wow things have changed a lot since the days of our pilgrims. You see, we have laws now that are in place to protect our people. Some have decided to place themselves above those laws to get what they want, which is neither fair nor right.

        No honey, that’s ok, I won’t give you the reins, it’s too dangerous in your hands. I’d rather keep it in the hands of the youth who respect the laws of this Nation and do not cater to just one group of people. Thank you.

      • Hey, glad I could brighten your day a bit. I am kind of serious about using terms like “honey” and “young lady”–personally, unless you’re a waitress or a drag queen, if you call me those names, it offends me. Basically, how it comes across is that it suggests you’re not taking me seriously because I’m a woman and I’m (probably?) younger than you. I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt that the REAL reason you don’t take me seriously is because you disagree with me and think I’m wrong, but when you use terms that come across as sexist or condescending, it definitely undermines the force of your argument. If I’m really the silly little thing that those terms imply, you can address my arguments head on, without any ad hominem attacks.

        And yeah, I did the same thing by calling you an old fart (did I mention “musty” in there, too?– KIDDING). That wasn’t cool, I apologize. Just like your age and gender don’t give you any special authority, my age doesn’t make me better than you, either, so I really didn’t need to go there.

        BTW, wouldn’t it be funny if we were actually the same age? There are a lot

      • I understand and will try to control myself next time. I am neither young nor old, just someone trying to get by in this crazy world.

      • Storm, don’t be fooled by this little liar. Mizzz is just as much an open borders traitor as the rest of these so-called dream act La Raza types.

      • I’m not sure what you think I’m lying about. I’ve been pretty upfront about my views. That doesn’t mean that I can’t respect people who disagree with me and wish them well nonetheless.

      • You are lying about your motives. Admit that you are in favor of open borders (which you have elsewhere anyway).

        Then people can judge what this so-called dream act is all about.

      • There are people in this world who are selfish and ignorant to a blinding degree, who always feel that the world owes them something. These people often end up in jail, and watched by the police while they aren’t. This is because they do not respect society or its laws. They feel that society owes them. This is the personality of the illegal immigrant: ‘a country that isn’t mine should let me break in and then reward me for having broken in, giving me privileges which even its own people don’t have! Jobs when they can’t find them, education when they can’t afford it, as well as free medical care, legal representation and not having to pay taxes! I deserve this because I am Me—so gimme gimme gimme!!’

        Do you realize how utterly, pathetically childish this sounds? It is the mentality of a child who has yet to learn how to live in the adult world, of laws and social custom, learning to be reasonable and respectful to others. I agree with Storm, you have much to learn.

      • LOL. You don’t like them because they are loud, because they don’t say “yes, massah.” You don’t like them because they are so many, they are going to knock you off your podium of privilege, so that NO ONE will ever have to say “yes massah” to anyone ever again. You don’t like them because confronted with choosing between laws that dehumanize and degrade, and righteous civil disobedience, they would rather be sitting next to Rosa Parks than jumping up every time some angry, scared white lady gets on the bus.

        This is supposed to be a democracy, where we’re all equal. Right now, we have an apartheid state. You can call it whatever you want and invent a million excuses, but at the end of the day, that’s what it is. This is the Civil Rights Movement of the 21st Century, and you’re on the wrong side of history.

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